Second Life Education Roudtable
September 23, 2008
Open Forum


[15:30] AJ Brooks: hi all
[15:30] Mercury Barnes: Hello.
[15:31] AJ Brooks: please make sure to click the CHAT LOGGER here in the middle of the table
clikcing it toggles it on/off
[15:31] Mercury Barnes: It works across logins, correct?
[15:31] AJ Brooks: those up in the amphitheater, come on down and hang out with us here at the table
there is plenty of room for everyones agroccs logins?
[15:32] Mercury Barnes: From week to week?
[15:32] AJ Brooks: ah – yes it shoudl remember you
[15:32] Mercury Barnes: Good.
[15:32] AJ Brooks: if you say something and you don't get a message telling you you are not logged in, it means you are but this is a new model the scripting has been fine tuning it hopefully it will be ready for general realse soon - it works pretty well we'll wait another minute or two for any straggelers folks, feel free to join us - there's room for everyone - there will always be an open chair and I can make the table bigger if necessary
[15:34] AJ Brooks: Hey Z log minutes 90
[15:34] Zotarah Shepherd: Hello AJ
[15:34] AJ Brooks: I've started the logger
[15:34] JohnPatric McMillan: hi
[15:35] AJ Brooks: Hello JohnPatric
[15:35] AJ Brooks: everyone please remember to click the chat logger in the middle of the table lets go ahead and get started Hi everyone, and welcome.
[15:35] AJ Brooks: This is the SL Education Roundtable, made possible by the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University. We meet here each week at 3:30pm SLT for an hour. Sometimes we have a topic, sometimes its an open forum, like this evening. A few announcements, before we get started.This is a pubilc meeting, and we keep transcripts of the chat. Past meeting chat transcripts can be found in The HUGE Bldg, just outside the Amphitheater. Enter the door that runs along the canal and make a left. We do have a chat logger - its here in the middle of the table. we are asking everyone to click it so their comments are logged. If you don't you will get a reminder each time that you are not being logged. This is being tested - if all goes well, I'll have info soon on when this might be available. I'm not the scripter, so please hold off on questions for now. If you have Mystitool on, or other similiar tool, please put it to sleep. :-)
[15:36] AJ Brooks: Please put aside the 29th of October, that is a Wednesday. The EDUCAUSE Virtual Worlds Constituent Group will be having its Annual Meeting in Orlando and there will also be a meeting here in SL. Details to follow, but feel free to join the EDUCAUSE Virutal Worlds group here in SL. If you like these meetings, please join our group - SL EDUCATION ROUNDTABLE. If you have problems finding it in search, IM me and I will send you an invite sometime after this meeing but before I log for the night. theese meetings meaning the SLER meetings As the group grows, there will be announcements and such that will be exclusive to the group. I'm also open for ideas of what can bring value to the group.
[15:37] AJ Brooks: At this point, next weeks meeting will also be an open forum. If you have an idea for a future meeting, please drop me a notecard or an IM.Lastly, please wander around the island - tonight after the meeting or come back any time. we're currently up to 21 different educational community members here on CHSSSouth. There are also numerous learning areas on the adjoining islands, Montclair State CHSS and Montclair State CEHSADP
[15:38] AJ Brooks: We'll start our meeting as we usually do. Please introduce yourself. Tell us who you are, where you are from, and what you do. No need to wait for others to type - go ahead and enter your information right away, we can all catch up in chat history.I am AJ Kelton, I'm the Director of Emerging Instructional Technology for the College of Humanities and Social Sciences at Montclair State University. We're located in northern New Jersey, just fourteen miles from midtown Manhattan.I'm also the Coordinator of teh Second Life Project for the College of Education and Human Services here at MSU.
[15:38] Mercury Barnes: UW-Milwaukee, Distance Education support -- expect to be a Educause focussed on Research Comuting.
[15:38] mOOn Jaecies: René Sadae U of Hawaii campuses - Nursing and Health Sciences
[15:39] Eleonora Porta: I am an italian teacher . I'm here in Sl since a year
[15:39] JohnPatric McMillan: i have a marketing und advertising company. we are located near frankfurt - germany
[15:39] Bravofox Kleene: Former teacher but still interested in education in virtual enviroments. From Budapest. Hungary.
[15:39] Zotarah Shepherd: I am a MA in Education (technology and psychology) student at Sonoma State University in northern California working an a curriculum project: Teaching and Learning Life-Skills in Second Life.
I plan to buy an island of Immersive Interactive Educational buildsabout Life-skills for teachers and parents.
[15:39] GentlemanKev Bookmite: I am Kevin from Northwest Indiana where I teach adult education at WorkOne.
[15:40] AJ Brooks: anyone else - folks up in the amphitheater, come on down and join us - plenty of room at the table Ok - thanks everyone. Oh, one final note - it is really hard for me to keep up with IMs while I run the meeting, but I promise to get back to anyone who IMs me as soon after the meeting as I can.
[15:41] Leondra Larsson: I am in a public school system in Florida., working as a specialists with students with disabilities, exploring virtual worlds to deliver instruction.
[15:41] AJ Brooks: so- let me ask - what does everyone think of the time and date of this meeting
[15:41] Teyah Nightfire: I am Janice Johnson, professor at Shawnee State in Ohio. E-commerce/Web specialities
[15:41] AJ Brooks: would another day be better? how about an hour earlier - how abotu later?
[15:41] mOOn Jaecies: it works for me most times
[15:41] Esparanza Freese: its good for me
[15:41] JohnPatric McMillan: for me the time is perfect
[15:42] AJ Brooks: i ask because we've seen a drop in attendance since the summer has ended, at the later time
[15:42] Teyah Nightfire: unfortunately I have class at this time. this evening I am giving a test, so while they sweat I chat :)
[15:42] AJ Brooks: woudl those of you here still be able to come if I moved it up an hour
[15:42] mOOn Jaecies: i've seen that everywhere tho
[15:42] AJ Brooks: earlier
[15:42] Esparanza Freese: no
[15:42] Eleonora Porta: ..ehm ok but don't worry if I have to go before ending
[15:42] mOOn Jaecies: i would probably make it either way
[15:42] Mercury Barnes: Mixed emotions -- it would give me an excuse to leave work early.:)
[15:43] AJ Brooks: lol
[15:43] Eleonora Porta: here it's time to go sleeping for me..
[15:43] TerriBerry Wrigglesworth is Online
[15:43] JohnPatric McMillan: early is better -- if later - i have to see how awake i am
[15:43] Teyah Nightfire: an hour earlier would let me attend, but I may have to leave a bit early
[15:43] AJ Brooks: and what about wednesday instead of Tuesday
[15:43] Mercury Barnes: Either day is fine.
[15:44] Zotarah Shepherd: The time works for me AJ
[15:44] Eleonora Porta: np
[15:44] Esparanza Freese: Tuesday is better for me
[15:44] Teyah Nightfire: Wednesday would be fine, at least through December
[15:44] mOOn Jaecies: wednesday is more difficult for me
[15:44] Zotarah Shepherd: Wednesday would be ok also
[15:44] AJ Brooks: ok - thanks everyone. one thing
[15:44] JohnPatric McMillan: np
[15:44] AJ Brooks: I am going to be putting together a short survey about this. The purpose will be to find out what date time is beset for those in the SL EDUCATION ROUNDTABLE group if you are not already a part of the group, and you'd like to have input, please join. So I guess this is one of the benefits of the group. :-)
[15:45] AJ Brooks: What does Amex say - membership has its privs. LOL thanks everyone for your input
[15:46] mOOn Jaecies: satisfies my survey addiction - thanks AJ
[15:46] AJ Brooks: lol - right, me too
[15:46] Eleonora Porta: said and done
[15:46] Leondra Larsson: can I ask a quick question......... why doesn't the group use voice?
[15:46] AstroGrl Enzo: Hello everyone. Sorry I"m late.
[15:46] AJ Brooks: one person asks each meeting, I should post this someplace We don't use group for a few reasons
[15:46] mOOn Jaecies: majority rules in place of my inate shyness
[15:47] AJ Brooks: first, I'm not a big fan of voice for group meetingds, especially since we can get up to 40 peopel here sometimes
[15:47] AJ Brooks: most have not learned voice etiquette turning mics off etc.... second, most of the regulars who come prefer not to use voice majority rules, as m))n said last we like the chat transcript which we can't get using voice
[15:48] Leondra Larsson: k... teaching and learning opportunities
[15:48] AJ Brooks: i'm not against voice
[15:48] JohnPatric McMillan: chat is also better for me - if i don't understand - i can read again and think about it
[15:48] AJ Brooks: and I hope everyone uses it and learns to use it, but I wasn't willing to use this meeting as that lerning space
[15:48] mOOn Jaecies: chat log is great for referencing and taking in more later
[15:48] AJ Brooks: and some folks ahve accents they feel unconfortable in spoken English there are a few reaons I think voice is great I use it one on one sometimes
[15:48] JohnPatric McMillan: :-)
[15:49] AJ Brooks: or for a lecture but for groups its been problematic in my book i think its great that people ask it show the growing interst
[15:50] Zotarah Shepherd: It is hard to record Voice
[15:50] AJ Brooks: anyone have a buring issue they want to ask about? voice = bigger packets
[15:51] mOOn Jaecies: is there any one place to go to in SL for all things SLED?
[15:51] AJ Brooks: what do you mean by SLED
[15:51] mOOn Jaecies: SL Education
[15:51] Zotarah Shepherd: Did any of you read the SLED list post about whether SL is appropriate for education
[15:51] Zotarah Shepherd: ?
[15:51] Mercury Barnes: No, and there should be.
[15:51] AJ Brooks: SLED generally refers to the Second Life Education Listserve
[15:51] mOOn Jaecies: ???
[15:51] AJ Brooks: SLED list follow the EDUCATION links from the SL web site 5000 educators, one list
[15:52] AJ Brooks: lots of volume, but mnostly good stuff
[15:52] mOOn Jaecies: yes, im on the SLED list, but...
[15:52] Zotarah Shepherd: All educators in SL should be a member of it.
[15:52] Esparanza Freese: set it to Digest so you have a summary at the top
[15:52] AJ Brooks: or use GMAIL if you are going to digest - CUT YOUR DIGEST if you respond
[15:53] mOOn Jaecies: i was wondering if there was a LM, a place to go for educators to see what, where, how inSL, instead of outside
[15:53] Zotarah Shepherd: I get Digest, but sometimes miss events if they are not posted in advance
[15:53] AJ Brooks: it would be impossible to have somethibng like that m00n, I think
[15:53] Esparanza Freese: I just skim the digests and read the rest
[15:53] Eleonora Porta: educators@lists.secondlife.com
[15:53] mOOn Jaecies: ok :-(
[15:53] AJ Brooks: it would force everyone into one place, removing free choice some education orgs don't want to be active some want to be on private island, like us
[15:54] mOOn Jaecies: oh no, i just meant to check things out, get ideas, tools, etc.
[15:54] AJ Brooks: it would take a number of people to organize somethign like that well - there are a few places
[15:54] Esparanza Freese: Info Island is a good place to start
[15:54] AJ Brooks: ICT Libraray
[15:54] Zotarah Shepherd: There are several places that give notecards about educational places to visit in SL though. My own list needs to be updated.
[15:54] AJ Brooks: ISTE
[15:54] mOOn Jaecies: i know there are several small places, but i find most of them empty or just w/ a few this nn thats
[15:54] AJ Brooks: most of EDU is meeting and event based ISTE is constantly busy
[15:55] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: One of the problems is, I think, the difficulty in organizing all the info so that it's easy to find
[15:55] mOOn Jaecies: i was hoping for something central in knowledge about things SLED in world
[15:55] AJ Brooks: but ISTE attracts mostly k-12 educators
[15:55] Esparanza Freese: ISTE has a meeting tonight at 6pm SLT
[15:55] AJ Brooks: ISTE has meetings almost every day, I think
[15:55] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: sorry to burst in--i've been waiting for chairs to rez, but no luck. I see lots of hats a nd boots
[15:55] Zotarah Shepherd: Well ISTE has events but the rest of the time there is usually only a docent there.
[15:55] AJ Brooks: the chair is behind you yes - the docents can direct you to places and also the folks on INFO ISLAND can provie resoruces
[15:56] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Ah--an empty one! I didn't want to sit on someone's lap...
[15:56] Zotarah Shepherd: ISTE has events usually on Tuesday and Thursday and some committee meetings at other times.
[15:57] AJ Brooks: and Friday the Science meeting
[15:57] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I think that a moajor problem is finding all of the info in one spot--in some organized fasion. We need a searchable database
[15:57] mOOn Jaecies: yeaaaaahhhhh!!!
[15:57] AJ Brooks: we have one - the google calendar that Bruce puts together who is going to run the db - who is going to update it - who is going to make sure it stays current
[15:57] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: No, I mean searchable for all tools or any topic
[15:57] AJ Brooks: Jeremy Kemp has tried this with the SIMTEACH wiki
[15:58] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I can't even search the SLED archives!
[15:58] AJ Brooks: but people don't add or change stuff ont heither own Salamander
[15:58] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: yes--I love Jeremy's stuff
[15:58] AJ Brooks: Salamander is a db of rSL learning objects
[15:58] Eleonora Porta: where could we find SIMTEACH WIKI?
[15:58] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Yah--perhaps I'm just suffering from information overload
[15:59] AJ Brooks: from the SL web site
[15:59] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I just finished several hours pulling resources to gether for a colleague
[15:59] AJ Brooks: and also b googling SIMTEACH i don't ahve it handy at this sec unless someone has it http://www.simteach.com/
[15:59] AJ Brooks: lol easy
[15:59] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: i've got all of it, after that searcdh--but I'd have to find where i put itm:)
[15:59] Eleonora Porta: ok ty Aj
[16:00] AJ Brooks: gret resource and its a wiki so anyone can update it i encoruage everyone to go in and update it add to it quite crowd tonight has anyone noticed that groups have been smaller all over?
[16:01] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I can see only four or five full avatars--the rest are just hats or boots. slow rezzing tonight
[16:01] mOOn Jaecies: yes! it's empty everywhere i go nowadays
[16:01] Zotarah Shepherd: More RL things going on now that the semester is underway for most of us.
[16:01] AJ Brooks: yes - but the end of last semester we were getting 30 people then I changed the time
[16:02] mOOn Jaecies: we started earlier in Hawaii - I was more absent moreover a couple of weeks n earlier
[16:02] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I would like to announce that our SL initiative at Edinboro U of Pennsylvania is finally taking off. President has come out formally and publicly for it!
[16:02] Mercury Barnes: Summer is the time to set things up, Fall is the time to do them.
[16:02] AJ Brooks: \0/
[16:02] Zotarah Shepherd: Yay Ruby!
[16:02] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: yes--I'm sooooooo excited!
[16:02] AJ Brooks notes the applause for Ruby
[16:02] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: :)
[16:03] AJ Brooks: what are you doing?
[16:03] Zotarah Shepherd: Will you teach courses in SL Ruby?
[16:03] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Well, I've just started a very small study with four online grad students--they are just now learning the ropes of SL
[16:03] AJ Brooks: excellent
[16:03] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Bigger things to come, though. Pres has directed a committee to be formed--and I'm co-chair. He's putting more money into training.
[16:04] AJ Brooks: yes!
[16:04] Zotarah Shepherd: Is that a class or more individual with certain students?
[16:04] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: stuff like that :)
[16:04] Meeting Transcript Maker: You were removed from the permitted speakers list.
[16:04] AJ Brooks: ..
[16:04] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: the four students are from an online course i teach. However, I didn't feel prepared to integrate course content into SL this semester I'm still not sure it is the best application for the methods course in reading that i teach.
[16:05] AJ Brooks: ok - its a start - good for you oh - you need to talk to LauraMaria Onomatopia
[16:05] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: So, I'm having them explore different possible teaching methods and resourcres in SL, and discussing their reactions to each
[16:05] AJ Brooks: she's thought about using it in Methods
[16:05] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I'll look her up after our meeting
[16:05] mOOn Jaecies: Methods?
[16:05] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: how-to classies in teacher education. I prepare special ed teachers
[16:06] AJ Brooks: methods in teaching, usually for grade (k-12) school prep for teachers
[16:06] mOOn Jaecies: oh
[16:06] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I've gott a 100-page dissertation from , uhm, Bonnie ??? (sorry) about her attempt with a methods class--went well for her
[16:06] AJ Brooks: great
[16:06] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: her dissertation, actually
[16:07] AJ Brooks: i'm sure you and laura can commiserate - LOL
[16:07] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I think I might have met her here
[16:07] AJ Brooks: she is in charge of our english teacher ed program here
[16:07] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: lord, and I teach teachers OK--I recall the connection now. Her paper was very helpful to me
[16:08] AJ Brooks: someone brought up the current SLED discussion?
[16:08] Zotarah Shepherd: Me
[16:08] mOOn Jaecies: AJ - do you hold meetings w/ staff or faculty from ur campus here inSL?
[16:08] AJ Brooks: no
[16:08] mOOn Jaecies: porque
[16:08] AJ Brooks: I work with my students and the faculty using SL individually no reason to
[16:09] Zotarah Shepherd: It seems we have talked about that topic before but it seems endlessly recuring
[16:09] AJ Brooks: we never have a need to be synchronous
[16:09] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Ah! No reason to. As in, what's the point--the most important question for educators, i think
[16:09] AJ Brooks: oh - wait - once
[16:09] mOOn Jaecies: that answered my question as to any benefit of holding them here
[16:09] AJ Brooks: no - one sec i do meet with them here, just not in a whole group i insist we work in SL together but I don't bring them all together at one time is that what you meant?
[16:10] mOOn Jaecies: yes
[16:10] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: hmmmmm...Do you bring all your students together at one time? inworld
[16:10] AJ Brooks: students......that work for me? or my class?
[16:10] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: class
[16:10] AJ Brooks: I'm not teaching in SL this semester but when I did in the past yes, all together
[16:11] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: ah--have you in the past?
[16:11] AJ Brooks: oh yes this semester, instead of teaching, I've taken on teh part time work for the College fo Ed's SL project
[16:11] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I wonder why you differentiate meeting arrangements re faculty vs students?
[16:11] Eleonora Porta: how many are they? (students)
[16:11] AJ Brooks: I wouldn't need to meet all the faculty at one time the way I meet my students if I were doing a taining, I'd do it in SL perhaps
[16:12] AJ Brooks: but I work with the faculty ona one-to-one basis so there is no need for the faculty to be in the same place at the same time
[16:12] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I don't mean to put you on the spot--thesea are questions I'm dealing with right now
[16:12] AJ Brooks: its ok no problem - GET OUT jsut kidding :-) :-D
[16:12] mOOn Jaecies: lol
[16:12] AJ Brooks: i like answering
[16:12] Zotarah Shepherd: It would be easier to log on to SL than to walk across campus
[16:12] AJ Brooks: we are all int eh same building
[16:13] mOOn Jaecies: that's what i think. so i'm wondering if others think that too?
[16:13] AJ Brooks: what DO others think? come on folks - why is everyoen so shy tonight
[16:13] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Hmmm...it would be too easy to sit your avatar down, then pick up a book to read, every now and then waking your avatar up, and pretentd to be listening
[16:14] AJ Brooks: this only works if fokls chip in
[16:14] Zotarah Shepherd: Some teachers and students are nt on campus every day or at the same time. I think meetings from home would make it easier for more to attend a meeting or class.
[16:14] mOOn Jaecies: i like the multi-tasking aspect of it to...
[16:14] AJ Brooks: when I am working with a faculty member, I want their undivided attention
[16:14] mOOn Jaecies: i look all attentive and relaxed n involved inSL...
[16:15] AJ Brooks: I'm teaching them to do things I want them to learn to do themselves
[16:15] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I hold weekly synchronous chats for the first tow courses in our online MEd program. Some of the students like to watch TV while logged in...
[16:15] mOOn Jaecies: but really, i'm pushing papers, answering email, grading papers, etc. etc. oops, did i give away myself just now??? :-/
[16:15] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: That's the point I'm making--if you can't see the real us, we could be doing anything...
[16:15] AJ Brooks: i understand women are better multitaskers than men
[16:15] Mercury Barnes: That's me, I use SL as a backdrop for other work, a lot.
[16:15] Zotarah Shepherd: Having lunch maybe lol
[16:15] AJ Brooks: lol
[16:15] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: some, perhaps. I can't walk and talk at the same time
[16:16] AJ Brooks: but can you flya nd chat? lol
[16:16] Mercury Barnes: Park my avatar, read e-mail, web pages. Folks can tell whether I'm working or not by where I stand.
[16:16] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: nope
[16:16] AJ Brooks: lol
[16:16] Mercury Barnes: It is a motif that can work, much like an info-commons.You choose whether to follow the chat, how loud on the voice -- just like studying in the vending room back in college.
[16:17] AJ Brooks: lol - vending room – cool i just came froma conference where we talked about learning spaces
[16:17] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I can tell when my students online arent paying attention dureing chat when they interrupt to update us on the latest happening in their favorite show...
[16:18] AJ Brooks: the conference was on non-virtual spaces but I was the guest speaker on virtual spaces
[16:18] Mercury Barnes: Union, only place open all night with people -- real community develops after a while.
[16:18] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: What did you say, AJ?
[16:18] AJ Brooks: lol
[16:18] Mercury Barnes: Same type can (and does in some places) exists here.
[16:18] mOOn Jaecies: we talked aboutvoice chat earlier w/ us. I wonder if students perfer voice chat over texting?
[16:18] AJ Brooks: I told them to forget their thoughts on everythng they know
[16:19] Mercury Barnes: In many respects, it's the VW equivalent of an Info-commons.
[16:19] mOOn Jaecies: i think not only because they seem to text over calling
[16:19] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Good uqestion, mOOn good point, AJ :)
[16:19] AJ Brooks: if they use voice, they can't multitask well we'd hear the phone call, tv, etc... i bet the prefer txt they do it most of the say anyway *day
[16:20] Mercury Barnes: No, actually, at least me, I prefer voice, because I can read while half-listening.
[16:20] AJ Brooks: lol
[16:20] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: The only voice I've been exposed to inworld during a tutorial, the tutor turned off the capabilities of others to speak while he was speaking--could text, but not speak
[16:20] Zotarah Shepherd: I think Voice can be more ingaging - Teens seem to prefer it
[16:20] AJ Brooks: i'm sorry - what did yousay?
[16:20] mOOn Jaecies: lol
[16:20] Mercury Barnes: Sheesh, I live in voice here.
[16:20] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: oh, we are funny tonight...
[16:20] AJ Brooks: :-D
[16:20] mOOn Jaecies: zo, teens prefer it? You asked them or witness it?
[16:20] AJ Brooks: tip your waitress, I'll be here all week
[16:20] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: :)
[16:21] AJ Brooks: so, Z - di you ask them
[16:21] Mercury Barnes: A mix, sure, but the most engaged, and most engaging conversations are on voice.
[16:21] Zotarah Shepherd: I have heard them request it when I am on the teen grid.
[16:21] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Did you let everyone talk at once?
[16:21] AJ Brooks: they don't have voice on the TG
[16:21] Zotarah Shepherd: Yes
[16:21] Mercury Barnes: Folks will plead with someone who doesn't have the dot to at least get enough to listen.
[16:21] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: any problems with that?
[16:22] AJ Brooks: i guess voice is a good barometer on the TG
[16:22] Zotarah Shepherd: Some prefer chat and some do not have Voics capability though.
[16:22] Mercury Barnes: It is the same as being in a class or anywhere, really, there isn't any difference.
[16:22] AJ Brooks: kids can know right away that the person they are talking to is a kid
[16:22] Kaczka Penucca: kp ao on
[16:22] Zotarah Shepherd: I like that we have the option to use voice or not.
[16:22] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: hunh? Yes--when it works well, it can be very effective
[16:23] AJ Brooks: well - a kid will now right away if s/he is talking to another kid or to an adult if they all use voice security check point hey - there is going to be a college fair on the TG
[16:23] Mercury Barnes: If I'm having technical problems with audio, I log off -- I'm "useless" without voice.
[16:23] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: wow!!!! when???
[16:23] AJ Brooks: tell everyone you know to tell everyone on the TG about it when - hmm - one sec
[16:24] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: are colleges invited to present in tg??
[16:24] AJ Brooks: yes def they want more
[16:24] Zotarah Shepherd: Most of the time I use text on the TG but then teens will request that I turn it on, especially for activities where ity is hard to act and type at the same time.
[16:24] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: How do we go about arranging that>?
[16:24] mOOn Jaecies: how do we get to present there?
[16:24] AJ Brooks: one sec - let me get the info well - you'd have to have a TG avatar
[16:24] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: ah....and how does one get that?
[16:25] AJ Brooks: well - you have to have a criminal background check and then be invited by a TG project you will then be restricted JUST to that project
[16:25] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: ah....
[16:25] AJ Brooks: you have to be invited, though
[16:25] Zotarah Shepherd: We still need reps for the college fair.
[16:25] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: that's why i said, simply, ah...
[16:25] AJ Brooks: so Eye4You Alliance is running this college fair and they are inviting colleges to join
[16:26] Zotarah Shepherd: It takes a while to get approved though
[16:26] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Can one suggest one's onw invite?
[16:26] AJ Brooks: as long as you pay for and pass the criminal background check
[16:26] Mercury Barnes: Does the criminal have to be done by LL, or can it be done by the University? (WI requires it of all new employees).
[16:26] Computer Jewell: Http://eye4youalliance.youthtech.info/?page_id=629
[16:26] AJ Brooks: you can complete a form - for this college fiar project thanks Computer I hope we didn't lose the chat logger anway - MSU is participating and I have students working on the booth and give aways and stuff
[16:27] Computer Jewell: Rio Salado is participating
[16:27] Zotarah Shepherd: We had a meeting on Eye4you Sunday about the college fair and we are getting a list posted of the colleges and Universities that agreed to come, but some are not approved yet.
[16:27] AJ Brooks: the meeting is just for the organizers, or are the colleges expected to attend also
[16:28] Zotarah Shepherd: If you have interest on ever doing something on the TG it is best to get approval and background check long before you need it, since it can take 2 or more months to get transfered there
[16:28] AJ Brooks: wow - our time is almost up - before we all spread out, let me just remind you. We meet here each week, details on any changes at upcomign meetings. IM me if you can't find the group and want to join. well - apparently E4Y is working on something to make that easier for the fair
[16:29] mOOn Jaecies: when is the fair?
[16:29] Mercury Barnes: k, thanks, means our "instructors," can't do it on a lark for Admissions.
[16:29] Zotarah Shepherd: One you have one AV there you can get others without going through the background check again for other sims there.
[16:29] AJ Brooks: no
[16:29] AJ Brooks: yes
[16:29] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: How recent do the checks have to be?
[16:29] AJ Brooks: that is what I am doing i have one on Ramapo and this one will be on e-4-y
[16:30] Zotarah Shepherd: Great AJ
[16:30] AJ Brooks: not sure - but they took mine and it was within a year
[16:30] Zotarah Shepherd: Always keep one AV here for meetings etc.
[16:30] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: I have one within the year--had to for a trip abraod
[16:30] AJ Brooks: or you can go through their company its like $60 or something varies by state
[16:31] Zotarah Shepherd: It depends on where you live
[16:31] Eleonora Porta: I have to go now, thanks for discussion; see you next week
[16:31] AJ Brooks nods yeah - thanks everyoen for coming
[16:31] mOOn Jaecies: where do you go to get something like that?
[16:31] Zotarah Shepherd: Ascertain does the background checks for LL
[16:31] AJ Brooks: the info for Ascertain is on the SL web site too
[16:31] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: state police, i think, unless yougo through an organization
[16:31] AJ Brooks: no - this is federal it has to be done throught he FBI I did my own, for a visa application
[16:32] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: You can't go through the police for that? I don't know, then...
[16:32] Zotarah Shepherd: You apply to a TG sim where you want to work first with teens, then fill out the Ascertain forms then load up a new account AV with stuff to take over. Oncew you are on the TG your AV there cannot come back here.
[16:32] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: ARE YOU FBI, AJ????
[16:32] AJ Brooks: no - you go through a company or do it on your own throught eh FBI lol - I don't work for them
[16:32] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: You did it on your own?
[16:33] AJ Brooks: yes it s a simple form its called a rap sheet lol and the FBI has info on their web site
[16:33] mOOn Jaecies: lol
[16:33] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: :)
[16:33] AJ Brooks: it really is called a rap sheet
[16:33] mOOn Jaecies: really?
[16:33] AJ Brooks: yes they have another name for it too
[16:33] mOOn Jaecies: u have a rap, even if you....don't hvae a rap...or any raps?
[16:33] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Moon--that''s what those "in the business" call it...
[16:34] AJ Brooks: but ont he site, it actaully says )utherwise known as a "rap sheet")
[16:34] Zotarah Shepherd: Background checks for schools are only permitted for that schools sims. LL alows that. But if you are on a public sim or want to go to another TG adult owned sim you have to get another background check.
[16:34] LrdRaptor Rayna Raises His Hand.
[16:34] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: ah
[16:34] Zotarah Shepherd: So it is best to get the Ascertain one first.
[16:34] LrdRaptor Rayna: ( Is a Rap- tor ) Close enough?
[16:35] mOOn Jaecies: LOL Rap
[16:35] AJ Brooks shakes head
[16:35] AstroGrl Enzo: lol LrdRAPtor
[16:35] AJ Brooks: well - I am heading back to pess my nose to ehg ridstone
[16:35] mOOn Jaecies: byee everyone!
[16:35] AJ Brooks: thanks for a geat meeting everyone hope to see you here next week - same bat time same bat channel
[16:36] AstroGrl Enzo: bye all
[16:36] RubyTuesday Ballyhoo: Bye, all! I'm going to copy/paste, just in case this didn't archive...
[16:36] AJ Brooks: log stop
[16:36] AJ Brooks: feel free
[16:36] AstroGrl Enzo: Your funny :-)
[16:36] Mercury Barnes: thanks.
[16:36] AJ Brooks: and feel free to stay here adn chat more folks are always welcome here
[16:36] LrdRaptor Rayna: Going Home.
[16:36] AstroGrl Enzo: Hi Lalina
[16:36] Zotarah Shepherd: I am on Eye4you, but if I wanted to go to Global Kids or Ramapo etc those schools or programs might want their own background check as well. You have to ask them when you apply.
[16:37] AstroGrl Enzo: ok.
[16:37] AJ Brooks: g'night everyone